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06 July 2004 @ 04:06 pm
My thoughts, in list format.  
1. dameange rocks my socks like Jimi Hendrix at Monterey Pops, if I had been there, which I wasn't, but anyway, look, look, look! She made me a cover for Set You Free, which was just...*drools*> *loves and loves and loves*

2. I'm so behind on my email that it's utterly ridiculous. I will get back to you, know that, but it might take me...*checks watch* years. Or a few days. Or something. Also, my email is being weird -- so if there's anything urgent or anything, you should just ping me.

3. pearl_o is my pusher, and the drug of choice is due South. My love! For Fraser! And Ray! And Ray! And Fraser! And Frannie! And Turnbull! *does cartwheels*

4. So here's a stray thought (one which, I add, is just a really vague spec of speculation) but what with all the thoughts of Chloe as Lois -- I wonder why no one has touched the possibility she may end up being a Mercy or hell even a Hope in the future. Certainly if the way the story plays out is that Lex has saved her life and nursed her back to health after the explosion in her house (and again I say, that I personally really feel that she *should* be dead, though I certainly would miss the character) she'd have reason to be fanatically devoted to Lex. And it would fit with what I know of Mercy from comics canon. Sure, Chloe's a wee bit more cerebral than we've often thought of Mercy -- but then again, it's not like Smallville hasn't pulled a one eighty on the characterizations of some of the other characters, now is it? As I said -- it's a stray thought (and not something I give too much credence as a real possibility) but I'm just sayin'. It could (maybe) happen.

5. My website has been updated by the lovely lyra_sena, with links to The Score now, too. So there you can find the whole Nifra Library, as it were. Enjoy!
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Current Music: RayK, being a woobie woobie woobie.
Adoable Frunk: squeelyra_sena on July 6th, 2004 01:13 pm (UTC)
I might actually be able to live with Chloe being Mercy. Since they're not going to keep her dead like she should be. I love my Chloe, but damn the plotlines! Anyway.

You need to be fed more due South crack, and allow me now to SQUEEEEEEEE with you. I love all the characters sooooo much, and we won't even get into the flames on the side of my face.

also *snuggles you* I heart you, too, maybe even as much as I heart RayK. And that's sayin' something.
pure FORESHADOWING: ckr sexnifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 01:17 pm (UTC)
Surely not quite that much!! I mean, that's a WHOLE LOT of hearting right there. I...I'm touched. So very very touched.
hooker 13: happy girlamberlynne on July 6th, 2004 01:25 pm (UTC)
I am not sure Chloe is capable of kicking that kind of ass, literally. *g* But you never know! They are really going to have to pull something creative off, though, for it to be not of the cheese.

Btw, the link to your site is wonky. ;)
pure FORESHADOWING: absolut!nifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 02:16 pm (UTC)
Oooh, thanks for the heads up! Fixed!
happyminion on July 6th, 2004 01:37 pm (UTC)
Oooh, I was talking to Jen about this just the other day during our visit. Though I would see Chloe turning into Hope, rather than Mercy. I just associate Mercy with a tall, ass kicking type with intelligence leanings, who's inclined towards brainwashing--which would be perfect for Molly Graves if they ever decided to bring that back up. But I've always thought of Hope as more of a nerve-center kind of girl. Like Oracle is in Birds of Prey--running the intelligence, figuring things out, staying one step ahead. It would be perfect for Chloe, who's snoopy by nature and who would have an inclination for deep loyalty to Lex if he saved her from being offed by his dad. I mean, what better name for her that Hope, when he was the one who gave her hope at the end of the line?
pure FORESHADOWING: Chloe!nifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 01:41 pm (UTC)
Oooh, yeah, you make a good point. And really, this -- to me -- seems a lot more likely than the Lois thing, and would add to the Smallville obsession with pairs. Given the way that they've set up the Chloe-dependency on Lex all throughout season 3 (with pact after pact after pact for Lex to look after Chloe, and the tenuous partnership they had), and the fact that Chloe's cousin will be kind of a snoop for Superman to have the Good Sullivan Reporter and the Bad Sullivan Reporter (I'm just calling Lois a Sullivan for the hell of it), that would be a nice touch.

Then again, I'm all obsessed with the continual doubling, so...*laughs*.
happyminion on July 6th, 2004 01:48 pm (UTC)
See, they actually hinge the major relationships and dynamics on the show through triangles. Certainly they're given to pairing everyone up weirdly in the last season or so--well, it goes back to when they started the Naman and Seget storyarc--but there's almost always a triangle in any good arc. I think that if Chloe gets in bed with Lex (figuratively, though heh--I'm not above liking to see that in actuality, you understand) then you'll have the very dynamic you described as a good Sullivan reporter/ bad Sullivan reporter with Clark being the third who has to somehow stay off both their radars as Clark Kent and Superman, respectively. It also, in turn, gives Lex a triangle only with the good Sullivan/bad Sullivan twisted around from the other angle, with Lois being his pain in the ass and Chloe his right hand woman. You can insert either of the girls as the third in a triangle between Clark and Lex and see the obvious playing out. Clark and Lex at war for Chloe's morals and soul and Clark and Lex at war to keep Lois safe from harm or put her in harm's way. It's fascinating if you think of it!
pure FORESHADOWING: my idolnifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 01:57 pm (UTC)
You're exactly right. Whoa. *blinks* The power dynamics of those six would be utterly amazing -- you'd have this full spectrum of connection. I...this is making me kind of fall in love with all of this speculation, you realize. I think the continual struggle for Chloe -- the war for her morals and soul -- would make an incredibly powerful plot point for the show, and would redeem her survival of the fire. (I know when I put it like that it makes it sound like I'm anti-Chloe, which you know I'm not, but, really -- I just hate the fire/explosion thing desperately.) And, it would be interesting to see how hard Clark would work on forgiving/saving her -- if he can't do it with Lex, then he surely can with her, right? Or so would be the thinking.

I love your brain.
happyminion on July 6th, 2004 02:04 pm (UTC)
You know, now that we're talking about it...man, wouldn't that be a cool direction for the show to take in S5 after (I suspect) they have let Clark and Lex become outright enemies? The battle for Chloe. I would swoon. SWOON I tell you! She's so much more fascinating than Lana, and blah blah blah, Lana could still be a confidante for both of them, but I think it's really cool to imagine them playing for Chloe--especially since we've seen that she has a tendency to waver towards the dark side when she feels at the end of her rope or emotionally bereft.

I love your brain, too!

Um, and this would totally make a good story for you to write, since you do complex Chloe *so* well. Not that I'm throwing this wonderful, fanged bunny at your or anything, but...I'm just saying. It fits your atmospheric twists perfectly, boo.
pure FORESHADOWING: Chloe/Faithnifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 02:15 pm (UTC)
1. I agree that they won't be outright enemies for at least another season. I think that Lex has to start doing some more truly questionable things before Clark will utterly break ties with him -- and frankly, I think that they have to do it that way or else it looks like the entire rift is based upon Clark freaking out that Lex was investigating him. Which, truly, is not quite so sympathetic to Clark and while I still maintain that Lex is really the hero of Smallville, I think AlMiles would rather have it clear that despite everything that Lex has been through now he really *is* a threat.

2. ...throwing bunnies at me, eh? Fanged ones, with pointy teeth? *eyes you* Cruel, cruel woman. And with flattery, nonetheless! *grins* You know that the moment we started discussing this I was immediately thinking about it. We'll see what happens...

3. What's starting to pop out at me more and more as we discuss this bunny is the extent to which they've already toyed with this idea -- at the end of season 2 in particular, with Chloe falling under Lionel's thrall. If you begin to think in terms of this idea, it becomes kind of clear that there's been a lot of foreshadowing, and that makes me excited because it makes me think that this will, in fact, happen. it would give them a chance to beef up AM's involvement in the world of the Luthors (which it's clear that they seem to want) and give Chloe something to do now that she's not part of the Lana-Clark-Chloe triangle, which it seems that they have been kind of at a loss about. It would make Chloe a character of more consequence, instead of just a pre-Lois. And, it would foreshadow the possibility of a Lois/Lex connection in the future.

*laughs* I'm just all a titter with thoughts on this.
happyminion on July 6th, 2004 02:43 pm (UTC)
I love watching you go all a titter with it.

And I can see that you're running wild with the idea which makes ME go all a titter. I would cautiously say don't get your hopes up about AlMiles doing this, because sometimes what they envision and what we speculate are two vastly different things. The really amazing thing (that sometimes turns disappointing) about SV storylines and characters and triangles is that there is a *world* of potential there, and sometimes seeing them go with one that was so simplistic that you didn't even hold it in serious contention can be a serious let down. But I adore the show for giving us so many variables. Not only does it make speculation fun, but it makes for a vast array of fanfic possibilities.

So while I think this is all awesome and would love to for them to go this way (and we know Allison would, since she's the one who put herself in the middle of the Luthor storyline by request, anyway), I don't know that they would darken one of their main (because I refuse to call someone who carries as much screentime and storyline weight as Chloe as supporting character, anymore) characters--besides Lex--that much.

But wouldn't it be a fabulous mirror, especially if they keep Lana the virtuous one, above reproach and keeper of Clark and Lex's secrets? Making Chloe the one who unearths secrets and uses them would be such a nice, dark twist on her truth seeker characterization *and* would finally, definitively separate her from Lois. Because let's face it, there are always going to be people really upset that Clark winds up with a girl so very similiar to Chloe, when he was never content to have Chloe herself. So if you darken Chloe, you have just enough of a reminder of her (and who she was) in Lois to draw Clark in, but enough differences to hook him.

Ah, Nif. We will never agree on the Lex is the hero idea, but I do think he's such a tragic, sympathetic character. I'm really interested to see how they'll strip him of that, or *if* they will. I mean, they've certainly painted themselves into an interesting corner by making their future villain much more sympathetic than their future hero--to the point that there are actual, logical, thinking fans who claim Lex is the real hero of the piece--which is so contrary to what they *claim* to be selling, you know? So I'm going to be very interested to see how Lex's continued pursuit of Clark's secret, coupled with his lessons in vicious corporate America with a vengeful and murderous father (and ex-wiife on the loose) on his heels, are going to shape him. Add in one head writer from Buffy/Angel-verse (DeKnight) and you've certainly got the potential to color in some of Lex's gray areas in a bit of a darker shade.
Jack Pridejack_pride on July 7th, 2004 10:04 pm (UTC)
You two are both brilliant.

::bows down::
happyminion on July 7th, 2004 10:13 pm (UTC)
*giggles* Get up before Nifra starts saying dirty things about sucking her toes!

pure FORESHADOWING: Cheekynifra_idril on July 8th, 2004 09:06 am (UTC)
*leers wildly and waggles eyebrows* But, c'mon, they're such pretty toes!
fashes iliafashes on July 7th, 2004 09:50 pm (UTC)
Chloe as Mercy appeals to me on a deeply fangirlish level. Though I know practically nothing about Mercy. Without spending too much money at a comic book store, where does one learn about Mercy?
pure FORESHADOWING: breathlessnifra_idril on July 11th, 2004 08:48 pm (UTC)
Hmmm -- you know, well, I can tell you can find interesting fanon about Mercy in dolimir's Mercy chronicals. Also, I do believe she's got a good out line of what the basic canon Mercy info is, and I know that there's a source somewhere online where you can find out all kinds of information about any DC character. It's a database of some kind. I'll look through my bookmarks for it.