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06 July 2004 @ 10:32 pm
rawr! i am the demanding one!  
1. happyminion is way smart in the comments to my post here (if you've not seen Covenant yet, steer clear, as there are some Chloe related spoilers).

2. Do you ever just get bored with your own writing? And wish at random that you could suddenly write like Tom Robbins or someone else who's style is 100 percent different from yours?

3. I was thinking today about the more or less complete absence of mother figures in the mythos of Smallville, so far. I mean, we've certainly got enough fathers to fill a PTO meeting -- Lion-El, Jor-El, Jonboy Kent, Gabe Sullivan, and Henry Small. But mothers? We've only got Martha, and I know I foam at the mouth about Martha on a regular basis, but by the end of Season 3, we can all say that she's a damned absent mother, emotionally. (She did get a little better toward the end, but she's just not the same woman she was S1, certainly for a variety or reasons.)

Again and again it seems to me like Smallville's handling of any kind of female influence on the lives of Clark and Lex is haphazard at best -- and when it comes to mothering, things are no different. And that kind of drives me a little nuts, for any number of reasons, but also for the simple reason that mothers play an excruciatingly large role in the lives of their children.

For me, the Lana-Nell relationship is maybe the most aggravating one of all. I mean, certainly, I can create my own internal logic for the way it worked out that way (and have) -- but do we ever see it on screen? And Nell, in general, gets the shortest of shrifts. Which, to me, is problematic.

I mean, I could go on and on and also *on* and not with any kind of real thought behind it, just like...ranting. Which all of the above basically is.

4. I'm desperately bored. Someone (or really, any number of someones) should find a way to entertain me and RIGHT NOW. *waits for flist to dance like monkeys*

5. My room is hot like the bowels of hell. I think I even smell a whiff of sulfur.
Current Mood: vaguely bitchy
Current Music: The World At Large - Modest Mouse
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pure FORESHADOWING: charisma!nifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 08:55 pm (UTC)
*nods* See, I don't know too much about Lara, so I can't be too upset about taht -- though, certainly I feel like if Jor-El is suddenly going to be such a big character and force in Clark's life, than Lara should be in some way as well. But, really -- just *anything* on the mother front would be appreciated. It's ridiculous, and it's upsetting to watch as Martha just stands there and does nothing episode after episode; it makes her look spineless, and like she's stuck in a controlling weirdly emotional abusive relationship. (Or maybe that's just me and my paranoid reading of it.) But at any rate, it turns what should be a comfortable and stable family environment for Clark into one that makes me unfcomfortable to watch, and that's not the way the Kents are supposed to be.

And...aww! Thank you for monkey dancing for me!
celli on July 6th, 2004 08:11 pm (UTC)
*dances like monkey* Never let it be said I'm not obedient.

Wanna read porn? I can get on AIM.
pure FORESHADOWING: brad sexnifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 08:48 pm (UTC)
*grins hugely* You even have to ask?!!?!?
happyminion on July 6th, 2004 08:32 pm (UTC)
I am not being smart, damn it. I am bored and blathering, like anyone else!

But I had to chime in here and say a very vocal 'word' about the lack of mothers on Smallville. People think that I think that AlMiles do no wrong, but that's bullshit, and this is a prime example. I lay the steady decline of Martha's influence on Clark and screentime at the feet of AlMiles and blame them for it entirely. I think that they *believe* that Martha's an important part of Clark's formative years, but that they just don't know how to have her making a moral impact on Clark's life, like Jonathan is for him, and like Lionel has failed to do with Lex. And I may add that the fact that Annette O'Toole *and* John Schneider both recognize this *and* care enough about the issue to speak out about it in the Smallville Yearbook is a big, loud 'assholes!' shouted at the production office. People can dislike Schneider's moral stance and his preachy attitude all they like, but he knows and frequently speaks out about the value of having BOTH parents in the home, raising the child. He offers Annette his lines sometimes, Nifra. AlMiles should really be ashamed of themselves.

Though I do have hope. Annette mentioned that when Miles came up to direct Memoria, he actually redid the scene at the end so that she and Clark had that moment when they shared their bits and pieces about Lara. She said she thought that once he got there, he saw it, and he saw the potential of what the scene could be and he went with it, to tremendous success, and she has hopes that they'll continue to see that they *can* use Martha, just in different ways than Jonathan.

I've thought about this lack of mother thing before and you hit on something really cool here:

that kind of drives me a little nuts, for any number of reasons, but also for the simple reason that mothers play an excruciatingly large role in the lives of their children.

That's so true, and maybe that's some of why we don't see mother figures playing a prominent role in most of the kids' lives. They want us to think of the three leads as orphans, when in fact Clark has a rock steady family. But Lana and Lex are both missing mothers and so is Chloe, so maybe it's that sense of acute loneliness that they want to tap into. How you DO miss so very much without that influence there.

But I'm more inclined to say that they're just asshats about this mommy thing.
pure FORESHADOWING: Deathnifra_idril on July 6th, 2004 09:12 pm (UTC)
Dude, you're being smart. Accept it! *grins*

I...did not know that about Annette and John -- that's really awful. And, frankly, should make it more than abudantly clear that they are simply not doing *anything* with Martha.

But I think it should also be clear that Martha doesn't have to be, and *shouldn't* be, a Jonathan. That loneliness you mention at the end is where I think she can come in -- Jonathan can provide whatever stern moral guidance Clark needs, fine, whatever, but in the best of all posible worlds that sternness would be countered by the flexability and freedom that Martha's unconditional support of Clark would create. This is me, going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I think if Martha were to simply be more of a nuturing force in Clark's life (as opposed to the shadow she seems to be now) it would be easier for AlMiles to make the point that it's a parent's love that can teach a child morality/ethics whatever. The freedom for Clark to be himself in his home and have at least two people who accept him would be...well, that would make the whole point that I think Smallville's trying to make in some ways about parenting.

But now? It makes me uncomfortable to watch how much of a non-entity Clark's mother is, and it seems like Clark is left on his own more than he would be if Martha were to take an interest or be written in. I...am not saying this right at all. *laughs* But you know what I mean. I hope.

happyminion on July 6th, 2004 09:23 pm (UTC)
You know what Annette said? She says sometimes it's very difficult for her to see that she really has no part in a scene except to echo Jonathan or to be silent, and she says she's come to realize when she watches the scenes that it's actually something important she's doing, just listening. And I was thinking when I read that...oh, man. Annette's selling herself a line of b.s. I mean, yes, a good mother listens, but a good mother has a lot to say, too. She doesn't just echo, she has input and she interacts with the child and she teaches her own lessons. Were it not for the season opener and then Memoria, I would've thought that this season was worthless for the Martha character, and that's just wrong. Jonathan's the moral code, but Martha's the heart of Superman.
the opposite of batman: due southpearl_o on July 6th, 2004 09:37 pm (UTC)
*dances like a monkey*

*squees over Fraser and RayK*

*loves on you x infinity*
pure FORESHADOWING: big pimpin'nifra_idril on July 11th, 2004 08:51 pm (UTC)
*dances with*

*sighs at the beauty and purity of the love between Rayk and Fraser*

*loves you back x infinity*
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pure FORESHADOWING: Clark RHPSnifra_idril on July 11th, 2004 08:53 pm (UTC)
God -- isn't that the worst? You start out thinking, excitedly, that this might be it -- your way out of being endlessly tired with your own style! You're going to change it! You're going to suddenly be very fast paced! Very brisk! Very stark and kinetic! No more of this flowery Faulkner nonsense! No, no! You have been REVITILIZED....

and then you realize, Oh no. That doesn't work. You must write as yourself.

Nothing quite like that to make me growl like a bear at my computer. *sighs and feels your pain intensely*